Chris Hayes: A lot of people really want it, and they like it. Rachel Maddow: Rachel wrote a fiction podcast? Rachel Maddow: -- saying, oh, the Justice Department should have never done this, and these poor Americans were persecuted just for being conservatives. Rachel Maddow: Let's take it beyond Ernest Lundeen. As part of the deal, Maddow's long-running 9 p.m . Hayes is not the only one who had to recently explain why a swastika has appeared in a place where it would hardly be expected, according to news reports. Rachel Maddow: -- because you have free speech, but you ought to be recognized as a political actor and for the political threat you pose to our system, and there ought to be a response. Chris Hayes: I don't know whose secretary is. Rachel Maddow is an MSNBC news anchor who has a net worth of $35 million. So Charles Coughlin, I think everybodys heard of him. Im talking to (ph) --. Chris Hayes speaks with MSNBC anchor, author and friend Rachel Maddow about her new podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra" and more. Chris Hayes: And its also fascinating. Maddow is best known for hosting MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show.She is known . "Chris has done an amazing job creating a franchise on weekend mornings," said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. Um Why is there a swastika behind you on the desk, Chris? I feel like there has been real ultraright pro-authoritarian radicalism adjacent to Republican electoral politics for longer than we admitted. Rachel Maddow: -- how many Americans are paying attention to him. And then there's just a person who comes along who's just better at it, just better at hitting baseballs and completely revolutionizes, like, what it is to be a hitter in Major League Baseball. News, Politics, Culture, and more in realtime. And the justice department in the wake of Longs assassination sent a prosecutor down to Louisiana basically to go bust up Hue Long machine to root out not only his vestiges of dictatorial power, but also bust all the corruption that he had left behind, which was profound. Hayes is renowned for his role as the host of the All In with Chris Hayes weekday news show which airs on MSNBC. By MSNBC staff. And Rachel is just on another level as a communicator and a storyteller, and incredibly innovative in that respect as well, just at a technical level, which I think we're going to talk about a little bit, even though it's like a little inside (ph). It has all of the kind of like context, and history, and pacing, and sort of just like narrative oomph of like a great Rachel A block, but with all the production abilities of a great podcast. I mean, this is --, Chris Hayes: -- stuff that is top of mind at the time, big news --. Chris Hayes: -- and it's funny, too, because I've been thinking about this as I'm listening to your "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra," I'm thinking about, you know, the Russians, who have an incredibly profound mythology around World War II, justified by the fact that they lost more lives than anyone in --, Chris Hayes: -- defeating Hitler's army. Rachel printed it out from a digital archive for me because the first part of it is all about the anti-semitic menacing that fascist groups were doing in the Bronx in the late 1930s, he wrote. Rachel Maddow: I love that, but it takes a lot of work. So having her name --. Point is, Babe Ruth was sort of just doing something different than every other baseball player was doing. Chris Hayes: How did you find your way to the story? Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 5, 2022. It's like, could we --, Chris Hayes: I want to follow-up on this. And the way you do the work to get them there is to assume that people know nothing when you start, right. Before she went live, the White House responded,. Lack has taken a large role in rehabilitating Williams's career, which took a big hit in 2015 when he was removed as anchor of "NBC Nightly News" over revelations he exaggerated stories about his. Chris Hayes: All right. Court actions do not work against this seditious plot involving members of Congress in the Hitler government. An icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Rachel Maddow: And I'm really grateful. Chris Hayes: -- or it falls apart if you're doing something in 15 minutes or 14 minutes. He interviews guys on the Nazi side of the plot to say, in fact, were you working with these Americans and gets them on the record from their cells at Nuremberg saying yeah, these were the Americans who we are working with. Like, that theres no final victory over the forces of it, even though I feel like the story of World War II and particularly the story of that, you know, its like the defeat of Nazis and fascism, the purging of Nazis and fascists from the continent, although not really in France. Some of it was, you know, a hostile foreign power, but a lot of it was native borne. Why is he so upset? Chris Hayes is . Rachel Maddow: The clan is a fascist terrorist movement --, Rachel Maddow: -- in this country. Rachel Maddow: Theyre running, literally, Hitler youth summer camps --. That happened. Are you a prosecutor working in the southern district of New York whos, you know, deciding whether or not the FBI thats not interested in these things could be trusted to infiltrate these groups or whether or not youre going to tap these outside activist groups and take their information to build your prosecution around? And then fast-forward from the Christian Front trial in 1940 to 1944, 1944 when the great sedition trial finally gets going, and this is in later episodes of the podcast, theres so many powerful members of Congress and members of the Senate who are implicated in this plot and in this investigation that has led to this trial, that they come in and, you know, witch hunt, hoax. Chris Hayes: More of our conversation after this quick break. Chris Hayes: The hearts and minds part of it, too, is fascinating. And shes just this devout, young Catholic woman whos disgusted by it, who infiltrates them, starts on newspaper, pressures the police, gets them raided and takes it on herself, and then --. Thanks for being so kind. Previous Post. You can see more of our work, including links to things we mentioned here, by going to nbcnews.com/whyisthishappening. Is that a story about authoritarianism? Rachel Maddow: -- isolationists to move in, right? As a bonus for "The Rachel Maddow Show" listeners, Rachel joins Chris Hayes on "Why Is This Happening? Rachel Maddow: Yeah. Chris Hayes: -- senator from Minnesota. A joke kills, they keep it. I try to tell stories for a living. In its zeal to pin the blame for its own incompetence and for Epsteins crimes on Maxwell, the Government breached its promise. And sedition is, therefore, very hard to prove because anybody whos on trial for sedition --, Rachel Maddow: -- did not have an effective --, Rachel Maddow: -- seditious plan. Chris Hayes: Thats the other thing, yeah. Rachel Maddow: -- to distribute German government propaganda in the United States through the U.S. Congress and through the United States Senate. SPECIAL TO THIS FEED: The January 6th hearings and corresponding analysis from Rachel Maddow and other MSNBC panelists beginning Thursday, June 9th. Here's the thing, I'm in this weird thing where it's like I don't want to spoil it, but kind of have to talk about the content of the podcast. He is encouraging America that the leaders we need to be emulating are Mussolini and Franco, and he calls for his followers to form armed militia cells to train with weapons, to go the Franco way, to go the way of fascism in this country. And then everyone starts doing it differently or some people try to do it differently, even if they're not quite as good. August 14, 2022 12:13pm. I can keep doing what I'm doing. If You Liked All In with Chris Hayes. By Chris Hayes? 715: March 20, 2019 () Paul Giamatti, Senator Doug Jones: Aparna Nancherla: Doin' It Donkey Style. Rachel Maddow: -- who are beating up Jews in neighborhoods in New York. Rachel Maddow: And its like, you know what, Francis Sweeney, you know, I dont know if there ought to be a statue to you, but I definitely want to read a lot more about you and know --. Read our editorial standards. Rachel Maddow: Dont tell anybody though. Rachel Maddow and new MSNBC host Chris Hayes had a candid discussion about the difficulties of their jobs on the Sunday edition of Hayes' new show, "Up." To be clear, neither host was complaining about the burden of being paid a hefty salary to host a television show about things that interested them. And then a guy named Babe Ruth comes along. Rachel Maddow: I think he said, yeah, exactly, yeah. When you are not just doing a highly structured daily deadline, daily production thing, it is harder to figure out where the compartments are. When Alex Wagner debuts her new MSNBC show on Tuesday, she will be taking on an unusual arrangement . One of the defendants wrote a book about it. The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell. Rachel Maddow: -- stockpiling bombs and detailed plans. So you get that name. Susan was like, you know, when I met you, you were a grad student who works hard. Is that a story about American fascism? And I've got this good mix of things now instead of just having a supersized serving of one thing that is too much for me to handle. In an interview with MSNBC colleague Rachel Maddow, Hayes said that people are increasingly realizing that January 6th, 2021 was actually a "very big thing." "It's just really hard to convict. Search it up, thats what my kids say. And the thing that I thought was beautiful about this is that, at the end of this whole thing, exposing the Christian Front and talking about how theyre essentially --. You take the base average the number of viewers who tune in at a specific time slot, no matter the host then measure whether a particular host raises, drops or maintains that average.. For example, The Rachel Maddow Show averaged 2.6 million in 2021 at 9 pm. Rachel Maddow: You can express them, and you can --. Rachel Maddow: Really not clear that youre going to be able to get against the Oath Keepers? As noted by conservative commentator Todd Starnes, Hayes in the past had linked Trump supporters to the swastika. I've definitely learned that I can't do everything alone and that there is no such thing as a one-man-band in this business. I mean, the stories about Jewish community activists in Los Angeles organizing infiltration of pro-Hitler German-American groups to then expose what those groups were doing even as the local police in California and the FBI had no interest in doing anything with what they were finding, I mean, what they did is they got newspaper articles written about it, and they got magazine articles written about it. ", I'm like, "No, it's the opposite of crazy. And the Justice Department, youre the Justice Department, you cant do that. And why have you never heard of this guy? And the Justice Department was like, "We should do something about this. The Rachel Maddow Show airs Mondays at 9pm ET on MSNBC, and shortly thereafter in this feed. Rachel Maddow joins Chris Hayes to talk about her new podcast, how we can use history to make sense of current events, what it's like to be covering the news in this political moment. Last night, both Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow interviewed activists drawn to D.C. this week to advocate for gun control because they have personal experience with mass-shootings. Chris Hayes: -- by Reverend Alson J. Smith --. And so, deciding that we won in the war --, Rachel Maddow: -- and, therefore, that vanquished --, Rachel Maddow: And all Americans came around --. Chris hosts programs like beat with Chris Hayes, a weekday news and opinion television program on MSNBC. I feel done. Rachel Maddow graduated from Stanford University, worked as an HIV/AIDS activist, received a Rhodes Scholarship, and earned a doctorate in political science from Oxford. Luckily for us, her decision to dial back from the nightly cable news grind has allowed her to create a work in new media. And my friend and colleague, Rachel Maddow, is one of those people. Chris Hayes: -- and was arrested and tried for and imprisoned for. Here in the televisual medium for a very, very special, exciting episode, I'm going to start with a sports metaphor, if you'll indulge me. Get the latest news delivered right to your email. The Rachel Maddow Show. Chris Hayes: Well, so let's talk about before we get to the podcast --. Rachel Maddow: I found my way to the story a little bit backwards. So that, to me, was like incredibly exciting. Jon Stewart enters the game - In light of the influence Jon Stewart had in encouraging the passage of the 9/11 first responders bill, The Rachel Maddow Show replays a portion of his interview with Rachel Maddow in which he discusses whether he's a player or spectator in the game of politics. Rachel Maddow: Yes. But it's this great, I think, very resonant tension between something happening that does seem to require a criminal law response that is not well-managed by a criminal law response. Rachel Maddow: I know, but its a speech about the Jews, about the evil --, Rachel Maddow: -- of the Jews. We are committed to truth and accuracy in all of our journalism. MSNBC's Alex Wagner reminisces with childhood friend Chris Hayes during the premiere of "Alex Wagner Tonight" Tuesday. And I want to learn your sort of lessons about how to live in the face of these kinds of threats. Rachel Maddow: And if we can't be real and, like, sort of justly calibrated in terms of thinking about American fascism, and American authoritarianism, and indeed American support for Hitler in the leadup to Pearl Harbor, then I think we can't be real and clearsighted about the persistence of those movements over time as the generations have gone on. It's about a story that I had never heard before which, for me, is like I know a lot of American history. The accompanying text read:. He took months and months and months, and it was very, very dangerous work because of what he was doing. Rachel Maddow is incredible. Chris Hayes: -- its wild that this happens, that this level of sort of fame and stardom and influence happens within the hierarchy of the Catholic clergy where he just literally just a literal random parish priest. So we got January 6th attack on the Capitol. Thats like hes a multiple of the Super Bowl every week in terms of --. And I wonder what you think, what is that curtain about. Since then, he has written extensively for The Western Journal on the Trump administration as well as foreign policy and military issues. Chris Hayes: Pearl Harbor happens, the war happens. Chris Hayes: -- ballpark, what is this? Trump staffers scooping up little red swastika golf balls into Make America Great Again hats is the tableau of the campaign so far, Hayes said in 2016, Starnes noted. And he gets locked up for embezzling from the German American Bund because, I mean --, Rachel Maddow: -- one of the historic truths that you keep bumping up against is that a lot of people who have fascist and authoritarian impulses and move in these directions, theyre also grifters and --. Mark Henle - The Arizona Republic - Pool / AP, Richard Pohle - Pool - AFP / Getty Images, @bennyjohnson / Twitter screen shot; Kamil Krzaczynski / Getty Images, Svet foto / Shutterstock; @FoxNews / Twitter. Chris Hayes: Having to do with, like, a pro-Nazi --, Doni Holloway: World War II era in America --, Chris Hayes: Yeah. . You're so good at suspense, so good. And the Justice Department, I think, was onto something in terms of the way those things were connected. . And then they orchestrated using agent provocateur. 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