Thread: MTH Trains going out of Business. Like they can't make up their mind. Ah. Definition of go out of business in the Idioms Dictionary. How UP was trying to put the squeeze on both for some payouts concerning the use of UP's (and the predecessor 'roads UP aquired) logos, heralds, and markings? June 9, 2020 - With the scheduled closing of M.T.H. I've always liked the MTH product line, and have never had a problem with DCS because, quite frankly, I don't use it! Anyway you look at it this is a bombshell. The hobby market for O gauge is shrinking, the older modelers with deep wallets for the high end stuff are aging out in one form or another sadly. Main menu. MTH Conference is the only B2B event on media technologies in Germany. From Trainworld’s Facebook Page:Breaking News From MTH Electric Trains Customers,June 8, 2020 - First, on behalf of M.T.H. Electric Trains next year, support for the DCS Digital Command System and the Proto-Sound 3.0 onboard locomotive systems will continue through a new independent company headed up by current M.T.H. We have updated our post to include the news about the digital line: https://ctt.trains.com/community/news-products/2020/06/mth-trains-wolf-sets-2021-end-date-for-company, Classic Toy Trains/Garden Railways/Model Railroader. What does go out of business expression mean? Past, present and future. I see some of you have a beef with Mr. Mike, and I'm sure you have your reasons which I won't try to argue with. I try, but nobody rises to the occasion afterwards. Souplantation & Sweet Tomatoes all over the U.S. Facebook. Re: Mizell Trains to go out of business Author: wabash2800 Phils Hobby, (a family business) in Fort Wayne, Indiana has been successful and recently expanded but he deals mostly in … What does go out of business expression mean? staff once direct M.T.H. But, I also defend Mike's right to do with his company as he sees fit. Custom Products; Become a Dealer; Become a Service Center; Dealers. Just venting, but I think I will now steer away from MTH. Never will. Well, I am going to mourn. Below is the text of his announcement sent to the M.T.H. To participate you must either login or register for an account. But yeah, this topic got a lot of posts in different directions. $11.94 shipping. Getting back to Michael's original post, that could be a concern. is an important part of the transition envisioned by retiring M.T.H. 'Month' is one option -- get in to view more @ The Web's largest and most authoritative acronyms and abbreviations resource. Also includes discussion … They will not run on my layout. You just have to remember it really is an HO and N scale perspective over there. has released more models than any train manufacturer in the history of our hobby. But not this time, UP was after the bucks. Not all are that bad...I've posted on both. One has to look from the business side of the equation. However it now only moves in forward and will not stay in neutral or go into reverse. But the lack of anybody stepping up the moment the chance was given says many things about the current state of the hobby from a business perspective and profits. Service Department. Remember the flap 15, maybe almost 20 years ago now, of Union Pacific versus the model railroad and railfan publishing industries? Electric Trains. Below is the text of his announcement sent to the M.T.H. The hobby's in for some interesting times, that's for certain. Wu Han Locomotives Limited? I wish all of them good luck and prosperity in the years to come.Finally, I want to thank all of my employees for their hard work over the years. Columbia, Maryland, June 9, 2020 --- M.T.H. More Buying Choices $170.95 (7 used & new offers) MTH O Scale RB Truck/End Of Train Device, White. My other issue with MTH products is they look toy like. I could be wrong, but I suspect that HO has actually been a colossal flop for MTH. Electric Trains to help bring enjoyment to all who share our wonderful hobby. Electric Trains would not have enjoyed success without the support of the M.T.H. Electric Trains, I want to thank you for the support and encouragement you have shown my company over our 40-year journey. Want more news? I agree with you! Then there's the political situation between China and the rest of the world which I am not going to get into! If it does go away, yes prices will skyrocket for awhie, just as it did with LGB going belly up at one point. Electric Trains to help bring enjoyment to all who share our wonderful hobby. so The Todd McFarlane of Toy Trains is going the way of many a railroad modeled today Found this out while looking at something else and as to Lionel Buying Them out why not Then no m ore Viet Nam least for a awhile can keep the Korean factoryes going, I am surprised teh Viet Nam thing took so long was at a clothing shop in 2005 or so stuff was made there. Electric Trains next year, support for the DCS Digital Command System and the Proto-Sound 3.0 onboard locomotive systems will continue through a new independent company headed up by current M.T.H. Early career. Like I said, don't trust him, and this whole story....something missing. Since MTH is going to keep going thru next spring and thru the holiday season, there is time for someone to sit down at the table and take over the company. SEARCH. After devaluing the "M.T.H." Possible competitors? Authorized Retailers join the program over the coming months.M.T.H. When it's developed, given as open-source, and decades later Mikey decides to patent it (the way it was explained to me)....did you know it costs $10,000 non-refundable to challenge a patent? Electric Trains president Mike Wolf has announced his retirement and the closure of his business effective June 1, 2021. I don't trust him. Bei MTH erwarten Sie faire Preise und ein kostenloser Premium-Support. Strictly conventional is my mantra, there's less, much less to go wrong. The horn and bell work and it runs smoothly, just in one direction though. I can see Bachmann/Kader taking some of the tooling and IP if it gets broken up piece meal. As I posted on the MR forum, what if Lionel purchased the HO line? Souplantation opened its first San Diego restaurant in 1978, back when all-you-can-eat salad bars and self-service buffets were all the rage. Cut them out. Picked up a couple of NP boxcars and put PT-1 trucks on, and that was it. Out of production!" First, on behalf of M.T.H. Their decades of experience, work ethic, and creative talent will ensure success regardless of who owns the assets while providing a welcome bridge between the past 40 years and the future. Also, each MTH Commercial vehicle comes with a complimentary AutoCheck History Report so you can purchase with Complete Confidence ☎️ 320 … Involved with several manufacturers who fought that. I can't even rewire them and remove the DCS board and have it work because they use higher voltage motors. I did that for folks for years, QSI or Dallee reversers. Upon our closing in May 2021, our ASC network will provide warranty coverage through April 2022. Peking Toys LLC? DCS, while it may be a genius command system, the learning curve is steep and the engines at best are finicky and at worst, impossible to run. I am sure some of the tooling will survive with someone that deals with the factories in China where that tooling will remain. Even extends to the Standard Gauge stuff. Once Lionel stepped up its game, it was matching MTH on many levels(QC issues not withstanding, whole nother argument). MTH was now a subcontractor making trains for Lionel and had stopped making … In fact, the whole evolution of this story's going to be interesting. product line family since its inception and its continuation beyond the closing of M.T.H. While traditional retail has changed significantly over the past decade, the independent hobby shop has been and continues to be the most important cog in our distribution chain. It will come out, we'll look back on it and realize what. It's like hearing Ford, Chevy, Chrysler, Buick, or any other major American car company was closing up permanently. Not sure if Lionel needs the O. I just looked in on the MR Forum. Mth definition: month | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples I don't blame him. The lost of MTH is pontentially very disruptive to you guys over here. I have a house decorated for Christmas on my layout that almost looks like the house I own, right down to the color. And if I ever run into you I'll be proud to shake your hand! Christopher & Banks is joining the long list of retailers filing for bankruptcy and disappearing from America's malls. 4.7 out of 5 stars 643. Electric Trains Authorized Retailer network on the evening of June 8, 2020. But just because it's newer doesn't make it less valuable - MTH has established itself as a leader in the model train industry, and you'll find plenty of them here! Upon our closing in May 2021, our ASC network will provide warranty coverage through April 2022. catalogs, our 2020 Volume 2 O Gauge catalog, and our 2020 HO catalog and all non-delivered items from our 2020 Volume 1 O Gauge catalog, 2020 Ready-to-Run Train Set catalog, 2019-2020 S Gauge catalog, and 2019-2020 G Gauge catalog will feature the last products produced by M.T.H. Well, there's Atlas "O", but their forays into O gauge have tended to be tentative and half-hearted, almost like they want the business but aren't sure they want it. Looking for thoughts from owners of the 4 car set (30-68204). The way they've come in going "great guns" I'm surprised they haven't gone all the way and come up with a locomotive line. The last two M.T.H. Lionel would have no interested in DCS, they have Legacy. My mind was leaned towards non-trust with lawsuits, really kicked it over on the back-EMF threatened lawsuits. But if I'm right about MTH and HO, it would be no different at LIONEL....... (And you folks should see some of the pictures of his home restorations! Yes, there will be the nay sayers that will interject that prices will go up and quality will go down. I am the monster in your head...And I thought you'd learn by now, It seems you haven't yet.I am the venom in your skin --- Breaking Benjamin. Splitting and crazed boilers, drivers, horrible control issues exacerbated by moving to an outdoor environment. Having a competitor breathing down your neck tends to sharpen your thinking and increases your efforts if you want to stay in business. Member since January 2019; From: Henrico, VA; 6,042 posts Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, June 12, 2020 8:40 AM Your reasons for not buying MTH HO are sound ones Sheldon, obviously they don't fit your purposes so there's no point in your spending money on them. Enjoy what you have and keep in mind, these are just toys folks, might be expensive toys but still toys when it comes down to it. 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